10,000 is at the low end of the number … it’s not the safe number that everybody wanted -- probably like 17,000-20,000 -- but it’s a number that’s enough to keep the U.S. in the game. we withdrew all of our forces and the Iraqis were OK with that at the time, then ISIS came in and the result is we got our troops back in there … we don’t want to lose one third of Afghanistan to the Taliban; let’s keep the troops [there].