Even with like-for-like sales falling, if they can prove that customer numbers are not declining, or not declining anywhere near as fast as they have been, then you would say that things are starting to pick-up again. Andrew Stevens More Quotes by Andrew Stevens More Quotes From Andrew Stevens Personally I don't see it going a lot lower, certainly not in the way it has been -- panic in the market, there would be some buying opportunities for sure. But most analysts will tell you that China should be a long-term investment, so you will probably take a few hits along the way. Andrew Stevens world Remember, this is still an economy that can be controlled by Beijing and they have an awful lot of financial firepower if they need it. Andrew Stevens world Let me know if you find one. Andrew Stevens world