I found Dr. Ford's testimony to be heart-wrenching, painful, compelling, and I believe that Susan Collins believes what Susan Collins testified to, but we also had a case where Judge Kavanaugh came forward and said,' I'm 100 percent certain that this did not happen,' so here you have two people who are each 100 percent certain of what they're saying under pain of perjury. So then I had to look at the other evidence, and was there corroborating evidence, and that's why I pushed hard for the FBI to do a supplemental background investigation.