I worked, and worked, and worked and worked, so to me, the American dream is not America saying, ‘Here, let me give you a job,’ the American dream is, if you work hard, and you focus on a goal, there's no one that's going to stand in your way, they will try … It's your job to overcome it.

Michel Tafoya

There's nothing wrong with that at all, except when it excludes anything that might question some of the facts and motivations for those ideas, or those causes, or those thoughts. So in other words, it ends up being very one-sided and that there is no questioning, we saw this so predominantly during the initial phases of COVID, if you questioned anything that was coming out of the CDC or the NIH, you were called names. You were called stupid. You were called a science denier.

People didn’t treat me poorly, I just think that the four other panelists, and let's add in the audience that attends and the guests that they have on the show, all tend to have one sort of a connected view, and you're the odd man out. i can handle that.