International news has always been a bit of a conundrum for certain American publications, i think the 20-minute, single-subject format was made for that. Michael Barbaro and Carolyn Ryan can't tell the story of what it means that the Taliban is about to regain power after 20 years in five minutes.

Michael Barbaro

People can evaluate the story ... on its own merits. by Michael Barbaro

People can evaluate the story ... on its own merits.

Michael Barbaro

Alexander Burns, Maggie Haberman, Jim Rutenberg, thank you for joining us on kind of short notice, we now have President-elect Joe Biden and I just want to take a moment and have you reflect on the significance of that call.

Michael Barbaro

I think the DNA we've created for the show transcends whoever is president, it was certainly forged in the Trump era, but we know from the successful episodes that have nothing to do with the president that the show is highly sustainable no matter who is president.

Michael Barbaro

I think the reason I chafe at the' front page of The Times' is because we're not picking the most important story every day, we're not a newsroom of a thousand people making that decision together. We're a team of people saying this is the most compelling audio story that we think we can tell this day.

Michael Barbaro

We are a show that really experiments quite a lot for a show of this scale, i think we prize the fact that we constantly try new stuff and are not overly worried about whether or not it might succeed immediately or not.

Michael Barbaro

I don't think, when it comes to audio, there's any risk of a single news organization somehow monopolizing the industry. Go on iTunes, go on any of the podcast charts, and you will see thousands of shows, and you will see hundreds of newsrooms making podcasts. They're finding an audience, it's difficult for me to understand how The Daily success is a negative for any other podcast. I think this is kind of like rising tide lifts all boats.

Michael Barbaro