It's not an unusual tactic. I just don't find it a very helpful tactic, you add a lot of extra stress and high risk, which some people like because it forces the other side to make a decision. But it's not always the best way to make a good, rational economic decision by waiting until the last minute, throwing all these numbers around.

Art Wheaton

I look at it through the collective bargaining lens, the lens, I do a lot of training for unions about negotiations and how to bargain, so anything when it comes to contract time I keep an eye on.

If Art Wheaton can make it collective bargaining where everybody on the company side and everybody on the union side are trying to solve the difference, that's a whole lot better than having all of the different owners pushing their own buttons and all of the different agents also trying to change it, collective means working together, and that I think is what has broken down here.