So that was cool and that’s as far as it went with him, but when he left, things changed and they definitely had a different feeling, the next administration, the president said to my face, ‘Don’t make fun of the Kardashians. We don’t want you to make fun of the Kardashians anymore.’ So I was like, ‘oh this show is doomed,’ because that’s why the show worked, because we would make fun of ourselves. It’s like when Letterman made fun of GE in the’80s. You have to bite the hand that feeds you.

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