The chink in the armor [ for Republicans ], such as it is, there is a conflict between these [ blue-collar and rural ] voters' views of the rich and powerful in general and their views of entitlement programs and the way Republicans really do approach policy, if [ Democrats ] can convince more people that it's a really top priority to help you and your community, they would look the other way on some of their cultural conservative views. But until and unless you can make that case in a way that is convincing to a lot of these people, I don't think they are going to change.

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