They know that they will need [ help ] -- especially for the 14 Republicans who voted yes and come from Hillary Clinton districts, where is that money going to come from ? Phil Mattingly More Quotes by Phil Mattingly More Quotes From Phil Mattingly I've been talking to a lot of people who are involved in this who A, don't know where the President is going to land, and B, don't think anything substantive is going to happen. Phil Mattingly us-news I'm told Wall Street Journal White House will be a little more minimal than what the Democrats would want, probably a lot more minimal. Phil Mattingly us-news They don't want to do anything that's going to lead to a loss, so it will be a step-by-step process, something they want to keep on the front burner. Phil Mattingly top-news