We're not seeing truckloads of guns, we're not seeing 100, 200, 300 guns in a crate that are ending up in someone's hands. Typically, what we see from straw purchasing is you know, one or two guns at a time, the ones we're really interested in are, are they putting it to the hands of someone who they believe is going to commit a crime ? Somebody who they know is a gang member. Somebody who has a significant violent criminal history who is likely to use that gun to commit more acts of violence.