So of our 5,000 substitutes 2,000 of them are over the age of 65. So given the pandemic and the risk factors there so many of those folks aren't able to participate, in fact most sub pools across the state are down about 40%, some cases 60%.

Andy Shirk

We've seen instances, both the folks at the school districts that work with the ESI as well as other school districts, you know sometimes they can't have in-person learning or cover those in-person classes, so we've seen closures. It's something where we really, really need that help.